Comments on: It’s science Jim, but not as we know it.. https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/ Wimminz Sun, 08 Apr 2018 01:13:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: wimminz https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8138 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:33:20 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8138 whaaat? Are you trying to say my oculus quiff kegel pad deluxe is a toy?????
What are you, some sort of fucking commie…. >;*)

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By: Aurini https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8137 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:26:05 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8137 They’d need it for the accounting.

A post-scarcity civilization would have to be the most uber-capitalist society that ever existed for it to last more than 5 years. It just so happens that we’re living in a post-scarcity civilization – and the lack of capitalism is destroying us.

(Note: we’d also have to be ‘above capitalism’, or above consumerism at least – post-scarcity also collapses when people work 60 hours a week to buy toys they don’t need or enjoy, just to impress their neighbours).

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By: Digger Nick https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8110 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:16:36 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8110 Yeah, point is tough, workarounds like that get us somewhere. It’s the clever hacks that built the world. Thing is, predicting the next set of clever hacks mathematicians and physicists invent, eh, fucking impossible.

That, and we might be reaching the limits of what the human brain can do here.

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By: hans https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8108 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:35:42 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8108 So what WOULD a Trek post-scarcity civilization need money for?
Communism (socialism for our ´merican comrades) was a great Gedankenexperiment marred by the typical need of elites to control the masses.

A people with a little fusion reactor and a replicator in the basement would be truly free and very much decentralized.
It would maybe look like communism at first glance. But no elite´s goon/commisair in his right mind would try to raise taxes or check for the partybook of such a man.

Of course this needs a total reset of especially the minds of man.
Pretty much everybody you meet today would just stay in his side of the fishtank if presented with such a radical concept.

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By: freeman https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8107 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 00:16:21 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8107 Been there, may come back some day, but currently going through some legal shit. It’s all fun and games until it’s your door their knocking on. Seriously.

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By: freeman https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8106 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 00:14:18 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8106 Star trek got around the difficulties of a transporter being incapable of exactly copying the quantum structure of a human being by inventing a “Heisenberg compensator” (referencing the Heisenberg uncertainty principle of the inability to simultaneously know the position and momentum of a particle at the same time). I’m not sure what’s more incredible about the series– the technological inconsistencies, or 20th century socialism working in the 24th century.

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By: hans https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8105 Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:13:11 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8105 TV and movie? Absofuckinlutely.
Just look at what a damn circus Jew.Jew.”mysterybox” Abrams turned Star Trek into.
Granted, there wasn´t THAT grand a vision in it, but still a vision nonetheless.

Not a planet full of Googlglass9000 wearing yuppies flying lensflare spaceships. All the while the fukken wimminz phone operator is giving the first Officer lip then attitude followed by even more ´tude.

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By: hans https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8104 Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:32:42 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8104 Great link.
Yeah, that guy is going to be in a world of hurt. Especially if he thinks his cupcake will have his back once the actual SHTF starts.

Though it´s a bit out of place here, why not come to the forum( http://men-going-their-own-way.net ) and post a thread there.

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By: Joe https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8103 Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:30:51 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8103 sci-fi writers are entertainers, not engineers and physicists

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By: Aurini https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/its-science-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it/#comment-8102 Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:15:39 +0000 http://wimminz.wordpress.com/?p=4717#comment-8102 I can forgive Niven, because he said “Hey – let’s introduce this one magical box into the universe, and talk about the weird and unexpected consequences.” It was based on bullshit, but he knew it was bullshit, and it encouraged critical thinking.

Star Trek, though – any time I hear some berk claim that Star Trek was based upon ‘actual science’ (having a physics undergrad fill in blank parts of the script with sciencey words is not science), or that it predicted technology, I want to punch said berk in the throat.

I suppose all aliens are bipedal, and we’ll be able to breed with them, too?

Star Trek is fantasy, pure and simple, with a less worked-out rule system than the magic in D&D. It’s fine if you approach it as that, but these middling-IQ ‘geniuses’ need to insist that it’s hard science fiction.

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